Oppose! Why? Has anyone on the City Council ever worked in the hospitality industry? After everything that we all have been through you want to turn around and limit socializing? The lack of connection between the city council and the registered voters of Hermosa Beach is laughable at best. We have an opportunity to all come together and your own personal agendas once again show us why most of you do not deserve to be voted into another term. Do some research and stop only listening to those that line your pockets.
I truly believe this is an attempt to bring back Measure B, which already voted down by Hermosa Beach residents back in 2013. We don't want AND don't need regulations like this in our City. Again, Measure B being snuck in amidst the chaos of getting back to normal from COVID.
Last I heard, this was called America, land of the free. When and why are these authoritarian, tyrannical, autocratic measures being even considered? This council has made one dumb decision after another for so many years and it needs to stop now. The citizens of this town have worked hard to help businesses stay open thru the last year in hopes of enjoying our establishments soon.. That day will come June 15th when the Governor will revoke mask mandates indoors. So why is HB city council and its new Furor (The new Police Chief) wanting to close down businesses, take food away from business owners and their staff? Closing the city at 10 pm is beyond reprehensible and I hope that they understand we all pay a ton of money to live here and enjoy its amenities and we will not stand for this oppression and as a people we will all sue this council and everyone involved to get our freedoms back if this agenda approved...
"Oppose" is not a strong enough word. Nor is "governmental overreach" a strong enough phrase. This proposed ordinance is apparently trying to get ahead of a forecasted problem, but the forecast is rooted in old data and from a timeframe that included a lot of former problem businesses that are no longer here. This is utter nonsense and demonstrates a complete lack of transparency, once again. Our downtown businesses are recovering - they need help, and they need to know that their city will continue to support them. How can the City of Hb justify even proposing such an ordinance that uses very old data as its strongest rationale and is questionable at best in terms of legality? Is the City of Hb trying to run recovering businesses out of town and spend more of our money on the lawsuits that are likely to follow if there is not a major course-correction here? If that's the goal, my guess is it'll work, but it's OUR MONEY that pays to defend those lawsuits, and none of us want the City to waste another dime of our money, which is what will happen here. Or was the City of Hb trying to fire off a negotiating position, only to soften later? If so, that's a pretty amateurish strategy. Yes, public safety and the safety of our police officers are both supremely important, but let's all agree on what the real issues are here, use more current data, and engaging all stakeholders. Nothing justifies the breadth of this proposed ordinance. I urge the City of Hb to start over here, and to do so transparently.
Hermosa is a “support local” community, yet this is the opposite of supporting local! Our restaurants and bars have been hanging on by a string during this pandemic, many of them sadly didn’t make it out the other side. They are finally now seeing hope, a light at the end of the tunnel and the city wants to take that away from them? We need our restaurants and bars just as much as they need us. The pandemic has taught us that we need to help others, we need to support local to keep these business alive, we need to stick together, this breaks my heart that it is even a consideration. The people suggesting this clearly don’t own a restaurant or business that relies solely on the community to help them feed their families and pay their employees. Oppose strongly.
Whoever wrote this plan should be prohibited from writing any additional plans. It is hard to believe this even made it to the step of public comment. This will hurt our services industry and goes against the grain of what makes Hermosa so great in the first place. What are we Palos Verdes now? Should all bars be replaced by a garden, quiet pondering areas, and gold encrusted real estate offices? Give me a break, I'm going to the bar... Long live volleyball, sunburns, and REAL beach life.
I strong oppose this. Hermosa Beach is a thriving, fun, well spirited community and this will surely put it to its knees after trying to recover after COVID. Oppose, oppose, oppose.
I strongly oppose! This community has struggled during covid already, and the vibes and setting that these bars and restaurants have is what makes this town great! Reducing capacity would be like going back into quarantine/lockdown. It hurts businesses and makes it hard for them to provide and exist. Oppose 100%
This ordinance is absolutely nonsensical. I see the point of those with families who do not like the hustle and bustle of the pier…okay, live farther away from the pier or move to MB. Hermosa is a vibrant and lively community and I firmly believe that Pier Ave’s restaurants and bars are at the heart of that vibrance. Limiting occupancy would be crippling a special beach down beyond belief. Given the last year, restaurants and bars need to be supported to grow and recover.
I absolutely oppose. The community is what what makes this city great, and gathering at restaurants and bars is how we socialize and enjoy this beautiful town and all it’s people. Pier Ave and the surrounding area is our best asset. It’s what makes it so fun to live here. A place where we can all come together, run into neighbors, grab a drink, and catch up. I can’t imagine this city if we reduced capacity, got rid of lines, and therefore allowed businesses to close. It would be like voluntarily going back into partial shutdown. Strongly oppose
Anyone with children is strongly for this. Please don't let the email blasts going out by the bars to flood you with support influence your thinking. Please poll people who live in Hermosa Beach, especially those of us with families. We very much need these proposals. Hermosa beach used to be a great place to raise a family. Now it's only a great place to get drunk. If we keep going down that road, property values will be hurt.
Hello, I'm an investor from Long Beach currently residing in Sacramento. I've been looking for opportunities to purchase a bar or restaurant and a Hermosa Beach area for a couple of years now. This legislation, if passed, would greatly discourage me from pursuing any investment near the pier. I think that is bad for the economy of the area. Having lived in Redondo Beach for several years, residents know what they are getting when moving to the area. Leslie, I'll add it more laws create more policing, which we know is disproportionately applied to certain groups. I think this rule would do more damage to the city than good. Thank you
This seems like an overreach, especially coming out of a pandemic where we are lucky to have any businesses still open at all. This seems like just another way to control small businesses and limit their capacity to survive.
I thought Hermosa Beach just bragged about authorizing outdoor music to help the struggling businesses recover. This illegal ordinance runs counter to that rule of course. Who on earth suggested this? I would like names so that we can vote them out in the next election. Everyone should oppose this egregious ordinance which would be offensive in even the most backwards cities in America, let alone Hermosa Beach!
Oppose! Why? Has anyone on the City Council ever worked in the hospitality industry? After everything that we all have been through you want to turn around and limit socializing? The lack of connection between the city council and the registered voters of Hermosa Beach is laughable at best. We have an opportunity to all come together and your own personal agendas once again show us why most of you do not deserve to be voted into another term. Do some research and stop only listening to those that line your pockets.
I truly believe this is an attempt to bring back Measure B, which already voted down by Hermosa Beach residents back in 2013. We don't want AND don't need regulations like this in our City. Again, Measure B being snuck in amidst the chaos of getting back to normal from COVID.
Last I heard, this was called America, land of the free. When and why are these authoritarian, tyrannical, autocratic measures being even considered? This council has made one dumb decision after another for so many years and it needs to stop now. The citizens of this town have worked hard to help businesses stay open thru the last year in hopes of enjoying our establishments soon.. That day will come June 15th when the Governor will revoke mask mandates indoors. So why is HB city council and its new Furor (The new Police Chief) wanting to close down businesses, take food away from business owners and their staff? Closing the city at 10 pm is beyond reprehensible and I hope that they understand we all pay a ton of money to live here and enjoy its amenities and we will not stand for this oppression and as a people we will all sue this council and everyone involved to get our freedoms back if this agenda approved...
Don’t let this ruin the hermosa pier, let the restaurants recover from this global pandemic!
"Oppose" is not a strong enough word. Nor is "governmental overreach" a strong enough phrase. This proposed ordinance is apparently trying to get ahead of a forecasted problem, but the forecast is rooted in old data and from a timeframe that included a lot of former problem businesses that are no longer here. This is utter nonsense and demonstrates a complete lack of transparency, once again. Our downtown businesses are recovering - they need help, and they need to know that their city will continue to support them. How can the City of Hb justify even proposing such an ordinance that uses very old data as its strongest rationale and is questionable at best in terms of legality? Is the City of Hb trying to run recovering businesses out of town and spend more of our money on the lawsuits that are likely to follow if there is not a major course-correction here? If that's the goal, my guess is it'll work, but it's OUR MONEY that pays to defend those lawsuits, and none of us want the City to waste another dime of our money, which is what will happen here. Or was the City of Hb trying to fire off a negotiating position, only to soften later? If so, that's a pretty amateurish strategy. Yes, public safety and the safety of our police officers are both supremely important, but let's all agree on what the real issues are here, use more current data, and engaging all stakeholders. Nothing justifies the breadth of this proposed ordinance. I urge the City of Hb to start over here, and to do so transparently.
Hermosa is a “support local” community, yet this is the opposite of supporting local! Our restaurants and bars have been hanging on by a string during this pandemic, many of them sadly didn’t make it out the other side. They are finally now seeing hope, a light at the end of the tunnel and the city wants to take that away from them? We need our restaurants and bars just as much as they need us. The pandemic has taught us that we need to help others, we need to support local to keep these business alive, we need to stick together, this breaks my heart that it is even a consideration. The people suggesting this clearly don’t own a restaurant or business that relies solely on the community to help them feed their families and pay their employees. Oppose strongly.
Strongly oppose. Please don’t
This is the most anti American thing I've ever heard ...
Whoever wrote this plan should be prohibited from writing any additional plans. It is hard to believe this even made it to the step of public comment. This will hurt our services industry and goes against the grain of what makes Hermosa so great in the first place. What are we Palos Verdes now? Should all bars be replaced by a garden, quiet pondering areas, and gold encrusted real estate offices? Give me a break, I'm going to the bar... Long live volleyball, sunburns, and REAL beach life.
- A property owner
I strong oppose this. Hermosa Beach is a thriving, fun, well spirited community and this will surely put it to its knees after trying to recover after COVID. Oppose, oppose, oppose.
I strongly oppose! This community has struggled during covid already, and the vibes and setting that these bars and restaurants have is what makes this town great! Reducing capacity would be like going back into quarantine/lockdown. It hurts businesses and makes it hard for them to provide and exist. Oppose 100%
Move to Redondo or Manhattan if you need quiet family time. Ridiculous
This ordinance is absolutely nonsensical. I see the point of those with families who do not like the hustle and bustle of the pier…okay, live farther away from the pier or move to MB. Hermosa is a vibrant and lively community and I firmly believe that Pier Ave’s restaurants and bars are at the heart of that vibrance. Limiting occupancy would be crippling a special beach down beyond belief. Given the last year, restaurants and bars need to be supported to grow and recover.
I absolutely oppose. The community is what what makes this city great, and gathering at restaurants and bars is how we socialize and enjoy this beautiful town and all it’s people. Pier Ave and the surrounding area is our best asset. It’s what makes it so fun to live here. A place where we can all come together, run into neighbors, grab a drink, and catch up. I can’t imagine this city if we reduced capacity, got rid of lines, and therefore allowed businesses to close. It would be like voluntarily going back into partial shutdown. Strongly oppose
Keep bars alive :)
Anyone with children is strongly for this. Please don't let the email blasts going out by the bars to flood you with support influence your thinking. Please poll people who live in Hermosa Beach, especially those of us with families. We very much need these proposals. Hermosa beach used to be a great place to raise a family. Now it's only a great place to get drunk. If we keep going down that road, property values will be hurt.
Hello, I'm an investor from Long Beach currently residing in Sacramento. I've been looking for opportunities to purchase a bar or restaurant and a Hermosa Beach area for a couple of years now. This legislation, if passed, would greatly discourage me from pursuing any investment near the pier. I think that is bad for the economy of the area. Having lived in Redondo Beach for several years, residents know what they are getting when moving to the area. Leslie, I'll add it more laws create more policing, which we know is disproportionately applied to certain groups. I think this rule would do more damage to the city than good. Thank you
This seems like an overreach, especially coming out of a pandemic where we are lucky to have any businesses still open at all. This seems like just another way to control small businesses and limit their capacity to survive.
I thought Hermosa Beach just bragged about authorizing outdoor music to help the struggling businesses recover. This illegal ordinance runs counter to that rule of course. Who on earth suggested this? I would like names so that we can vote them out in the next election. Everyone should oppose this egregious ordinance which would be offensive in even the most backwards cities in America, let alone Hermosa Beach!
Please do not inflict further harm to our local businesses, tourism, and way of life!